December 1, 2002 -

The following interview was conducted by a reporter for the Al-
Jazeera network with the third-in-command of the Al Queda
organization, Mr. Mohammed Al-Asuquf. Al-Asuquf's background is
impressive; a doctorate in physics and masters in international
economics. In the interview, he talks of Al Queda's plans with total
detachment, with deep knowledge and an unshakeable commitment to his
cause.

This interview was sent to Abel-Bari Atwan, chief editor of Al Quds,
an Arabic-language newspaper published in London, but was never
printed, due to its highly revealing [inflammatory?] contents. A copy
of the interview came to Foz-do-Iguaçu, and was translated into
Portuguese by a university professor in the city's Arab community.

This is probably the only existing version of this interview not in
Arabic.

Al-Jazeera: What is the objective of the Al Queda network?

Al-Asuquf: To destroy the Great Satan, that is, the United States and
Israel.

Incorrect, the Great Satan is the reptilian/Illuminati cabal
manipulating the world's power positions.

Al-Jazeera: Why?

Al-Asuquf: The USA over the past 60 years has been impregnating
[infecting] the world with its arrogance, greed and malfeasance. It
is the incarnation of all that is evil. The people of this planet
don't deserve this torture.

There is no USA per se; the satanically controlled leadership marches
to the drumbeat of the long planned agenda for singular global
control, currently in its final stages. The destruction of the US,
via the Trojan horse of terrorism, is the created problem, while also
serving as a final catalyst for global governance.

Al-Jazeera: Isn't this view somewhat one-sided?

Of course it is, how else could conflict be elevated unless both
sides created reasons to do so.

Al-Asuquf: No; one only has to observe recent events. The disrespect
of the Kyoto treaty; the case of the Permanent Court of International
Justice, their inaction with regards to our Palestinian brothers; the
financial greed and absurd speculations in Third World countries; the
complete indifference to other oppressed people and countless other
situations which all of the world's leaders well know. And on top of
all that, the Bush doctrine of "shoot first and ask questions later."
This is an unacceptable abuse and will therefore have very grave
consequences.

Who can argue with those statements?

Al-Jazeera: But the isn't the development and influence of America
the fruit of its own competence?

Al-Asuquf: Competence in extortion, competence in subjugation,
competence in lying. After the Second World War, the USA was the only
industrialized country with its manufacturing infrastructure intact.
Loaning money like a good loan shark, it ended up becoming a very
rich and powerful country; however, its greed remained undiminished.
Today, Americans live like maharajas [?], wasting more than any other
people, spending more than $80 billion per year just on gambling.
They've lost any notion of spirituality and live in constant sin.
With each passing day the USA demonstrates that it doesn't know how
to live with other peoples; for this, it deserves destruction.

Yes, this is true, but the U.S. change of character is simply the
movie being played out, regardless of whether Al-Asuquf is a willing
pawn or not.

Al-Jazeera: Wouldn't it be easier to simply assassinate President
George Bush?

Al-Asuquf: In the first place, it would do no good, other than
turning him into a martyr. When you face a powerful enemy, the best
strategy is not to kill him, but to make him lose his leadership due
to his incompetence, and let him live to watch this unfold.

He removal is immaterial.

Al-Jazeera: Does the Al Queda network have the military capacity to
make war on the United States?

Al-Asuquf: If we analyze history, we will see that all great wars,
before they were started, were based on previously established
concepts [of war]. But if we observe well, we will see that these
concepts and strategies came to nothing, since a new type of war was
ultimately waged. An example is the construction of the Maginot line
by the French before the First World War, which, in reality proved to
be completely useless against the invading forces. Aircraft carriers,
nuclear submarines, and spy satellites will be useless in the next
war.

Al-Jazeera: American authorities hold more than 1,000 people
suspected of terrorism since September 11th. Won't this compromise Al
Queda's plans?

Al-Asuquf: Of those imprisoned, perhaps 20 to 30 percent belong to Al
Queda. Moreover, they are from the second echelon. We have more than
500 members of the first echelon and 800 from the second, inside the
United States.

Al-Jazeera: What do you mean by first and second echelons?

Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon are Al Queda members who have been in
the United States for more than 10 years, many married with children.
They have detailed knowledge of our plans and are just waiting for a
phone call. They are also known as "sleepers." Those of the second
echelon have arrived in the last five years and have no idea of our
plans.

Al-Jazeera: Are even those who are married, with children, ready to
die with their families?

Al-Asuquf: Yes. All of them are ready to die. Long live September
11th.

Yes, it was the kickoff to the big party.

Al-Jazeera: What was September 11th to Al Queda's overall plans?

Al-Asuquf: As a general step, it was just the beginning. It was a way
of calling the world's attention to what is still to come.

Al-Jazeera: How many members does Al Queda have?

Al-Asuquf: In the first echelon, about 5,000; in the second, about
20,000, all over the world.

Al-Jazeera: In the detention camp at Guantanamo, are there any
members of the first echelon?

Al-Asuquf: No, in fact, many of those there are not even Al Queda
members.

Al-Jazeera: How does Al Queda intend to destroy the most powerful
nation in history?

Al-Asuquf: It's a question of logistics. Using its own poison, that
is, attacking the heart of what they consider the most important
thing in the world: money.

Al-Jazeera: How so?

Al-Asuquf: The American economy is an economy of false appearances.
There is no real economic ballast to the American economy. The
American GDP of is something around $10 trillion, of which just 1
percent represents agriculture, and just 24 percent represents
industry. Therefore, 75 percent of the American GDP is service and
most of this is financial speculation. For those who understand
economics, and it appears that the American Secretary of the
Treasury, Paul O'Neil, doesn't or doesn't see it, it's enough to say
that the USA acts like a huge "dot-com," and dollars, strictly
speaking, are its shares.

Al-Jazeera: Can you explain that?

Al-Asuquf: The value of a company's shares is directly proportional
to the profitability of the enterprise. When a business is just a
service provider and doesn't produce any durable goods, the value of
its shares depends on its credibility. Which is to say that if the
credibility of the USA were shaken, its shares (the dollar) would
fall with incredible rapidity and the entire American economy would
begin to collapse.

Al-Jazeera: How can you be so sure of this?

Al-Asuquf: On a smaller scale, it's exactly what large financial
groups do to the countries of the third world to reap profits in one
month that Swiss banks couldn't get in four or five years.

Al-Jazeera: So how will Al Queda shock the American economy to this
point?

Al-Asuquf: By provoking a deficit of between $50 and $70 trillion
dollars, the equivalent of the United States' GDP for five to seven
years.

Al-Jazeera: How will this be done?

Al-Asuquf: With the destruction of the seven largest American cities,
along with other measures.

Al-Jazeera: By what means will this be done?

Al-Asuquf: Using atomic bombs.

Nothing new here. Sollog has warned for three years now to leave all
western cities due to the danger of nuclear attacks, which he says,
will destroy major cities and with it the global power of the U.S.
as well.

Al-Jazeera: With all of the security in the USA, how, hypothetically,
will these bombs be smuggled onto American soil?

Al-Asuquf: They won't be smuggled in, they're already there.

Al-Jazeera: What are you saying?

Al-Asuquf: There are already seven nuclear devices on American soil
which were put in place before September 11th and are ready to be
detonated.

Al-Jazeera: How did they get in to the USA?

Al-Asuquf: Before September 11, American security was a fiasco, and
even after, were it necessary, we could manage to smuggle bombs into
the United States. They entered through seaports, as normal cargo.

Previously reported during the past few years.

Al-Jazeera: How is that possible?

Al-Asuquf: A nuclear device is no bigger than a refrigerator;
therefore, it can be easily camouflaged as one. Millions of cargo
containers arrive in seaports each day, and no matter how efficient
security is, it's impossible to check, search through and examine
each container.

Al-Jazeera: Where did these atomic bombs come from?

Al-Asuquf: They were purchased on the black market.

Al-Jazeera: From whom?

Al-Asuquf: We bought five from the defunct Soviet Union and two more
from Pakistan.

Previously reported as well.

Al-Jazeera: How is it possible to buy an atomic bomb? Isn't there
security?

Al-Asuquf: Before 1989 it was practically impossible, however after
the fall of the Berlin Wall, the Russian army began a process of self
destruction, and some high generals began to lose their privileges,
and therefore, highly susceptible to corruption. Even General Lebeb,
now deceased, and Hans Blix, the head of the arms inspection
commission of the United Nations, have stated this, notwithstanding
denials by Russian Defense Minister Seguey Ivanov.

Al-Jazeera: How much does a nuclear bomb cost?

Al-Asuquf: Somewhere around $200 million.

Al-Jazeera: How did Al Queda get this money?

Al-Asuquf: We have numerous sponsors.

Yes, quite accurate. All Illuminati front organizations.

Al-Jazeera: Who are they?

Al-Asuquf: There are a number of countries, which support us, and
also numerous wealthy individuals.

Al-Jazeera: Are all of these countries Arab?

Al-Asuquf: No, there are some European countries as well which have
an interest in the fall of the USA.

Al-Jazeera: Who are these wealthy individuals?

Al-Asuquf: People who are also tired of watching the USA suck the
wealth out of the rest of the world.

Not exactly. First of all they are not exactly people, secondly,
they intend to take it all for themselves.

Al-Jazeera: Is Saddam Hussein one of them?

Al-Asuquf: You could say that he's just one of the collaborators,
through Abdul Tawab Mullah Hawaish, his vice-prime minister and the
person responsible for Iraq's arms program.

Al-Jazeera: Are these atomic bombs powerful ones?

Al-Asuquf: The five Russian devices are from the old T-3 missiles,
also known as RD-107s, and their potency is something around 100
kilotons each, that is, 5 times as powerful as the Hiroshima bomb.
The Pakistani bombs are less powerful, somewhere around 10 kilotons.

This is new. My information, passed on three years ago, indicated
only lower yield suitcase devices.

Al-Jazeera: Can't the bombs be detected and disarmed by American
authorities?

Al-Asuquf: No, in spite of their age they've undergone modernization
and are well hidden. Even if they were found, they have auto
detonation provisions should anything get close to them. Even
electromagnetic pulses would be incapable of deactivating them.

Al-Jazeera: Don't they emit radiation? Can't they be detected?

Al-Asuquf: No. They are wrapped in thick leaden cases.

Al-Jazeera: A suspected Pakistani ship was recently searched and all
that was found were lead bars. Does this have anything to do with the
bombs?

Al-Asuquf: Yes, however that lead was just an extra layer, and was
not essentially necessary.

Al-Jazeera: How will the bombs be detonated?

Al-Asuquf: There are numerous methods, a cell-phone call, radio
frequency, seismic shocks or by timer.

Al-Jazeera: Once detonated, how many deaths will be caused by these
bombs?

Al-Asuquf: It depends, since our plans are very malleable.

Al-Jazeera: So what is the entire plan?

Al-Asuquf: The beginning will be the detonation of a nuclear device,
which will cause the death of between 800 thousand and one million
people and create chaos on a scale never seen before. During this
chaos, two or three crop sprayers that are now dismantled and stored
in granaries [silos?] close to little-used highways in the
countryside will take off on suicide missions to spray two or three
large American cities with smallpox. That means that once the
smallpox has been identified, all airports and seaports will be
closed by quarantine. Land borders will likewise be shut down. Not
one airplane, ship or vehicle will enter or leave the United States.
This will cause total chaos. White House Press secretary Ari
Fleischman will be very busy.

Al-Jazeera: But the American government has guaranteed that within
five days it could produce enough smallpox vaccine to inoculate the
entire population.

Al-Asuquf: There will be simultaneous suicide attacks against the
vaccine production plants.

Al-Jazeera: Which will be the first city?

Al-Asuquf: The first city will be that in which optimal conditions
present themselves, for example, clear skies, and winds of eight
miles-per-hour or less in the direction of the country's center so
that radioactive dust can contaminate the maximum possible area.

Al-Jazeera: Will this attack annihilate the USA?

Al-Asuquf: No. But the process will have begun. Who will buy food
products from the United States knowing they may have been
contaminated by radiation? Who will travel to the United States
knowing the possibility of contracting smallpox? Who will continue to
invest in American institutions? Just as with the World Trade Center,
it will be simply a question of time before the entire economic
structure collapses and turns to dust. If our objectives are reached
with one bomb and the smallpox, probably we'll save the lives of
others, however that's risky [unlikely?], and it's probable that six
more bombs will be detonated, one per week, and other attacks with
chemical weapons will be carried out.

Al-Jazeera: How many innocent people will die?

Al-Asuquf: According to estimates made by me and Ayman Al-Zawahiro,
somewhere around 15 million due to the atomic bombs and their
radiation. Of those exposed to smallpox, 25 percent will die,
approximately five million, and many more due to the ensuing chaos
and disorder.

Al-Jazeera: What about the American military response?

Al-Asuquf: There will practically be none. Even if five or ten cities
were chosen at random to be destroyed, that would still be a small
price to pay. The problem is the economic despair will be so great
that even economizing by not using arms unnecessarily will occur,
since the liquidity of American goods will be almost zero and at that
point the United States will make more selling its Nimitz-class
aircraft carriers, which cost about five billion dollars, to Turkey
or Italy for one billion dollars, since the country will so urgently
need to recapitalize, though it will be too late. Moreover, how will
the morale of American soldiers be knowing that their entire families
have died and their country no longer exists. Fight for what?

Al-Jazeera: And won't the global economy also be ruined?

Al-Asuquf: In the beginning it will be very difficult; a serious
economic crisis will ensue. However, without the United States, the
world will soon arise in a more just and fraternal manner.

Al-Jazeera: And Israel?

Al-Asuquf: As they say... it will be dessert.

Al-Jazeera: Does bin Laden's spokesman, Sulaiman Abu Gheith, know
that you are giving this interview?

Al-Asuquf: It was he and bin Laden who suggested I give it.

Al-Jazeera: Osama bin Laden is still alive?

Al-Asuquf: He is quite healthy, alongside his commanders Mohammed
Atef and Khalid Shaik Mohammed and Mullah Omar.

Al-Jazeera: Aren't you fearful that Al Queda's plans will be
discovered?

No, just the link to the Illuminati.

Al-Asuquf: The plan is already in its countdown, and nothing can stop
it.

Al-Jazeera: Not even if the United States asks forgiveness and
changes its attitudes?

Al-Asuquf: That won't happen, and even if it did, it's too late.

Al-Jazeera: When will the attack begin?

Al-Asuquf: I can't reveal that. Allah Akbar.